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Blue-Sky Startup Ideas: Socratic Linking

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How many times have you visited a blog or read an article and wanted to reply or comment but didn't because of these issues:


  • There was no facility to comment
  • You were confused and had a question and wasn't sure anybody would respond
  • You didn't want to go through the hassle of having to subscribe or revisit the site all the time just because you were interested in one article
  • All the existing comments were jokes or one-liners that added no value, and you had something serious to say
  • You really wanted to start a conversation about a topic that was related to the article, but a little different, and was afraid nobody else would be interested
  • There were obvious flaws in certain parts of the article, although some parts were good, and you didn't want to have to take the time to point out which parts were good and which parts you agreed with
  • The tone of the board/article is very serious, and you thought of a great joke that nobody would appreciate, but it'd be a shame not to share it
  • The traffic on the site is so low that any contribution you make really won't get many readers, making it worth much of your time

How about this idea as a response to these problems?

Wherever you are on the web, if you are looking at text, you can highlight it and choose to either make a comment, ask or answer a question. The process goes like this:

  • Highlight the text
  • "Sort" the text. That is, choose how it emotionally impacted you and what keywords you associate with it
  • Choose to add a statement or a question
  • Type in a title and a long version of your statement/question
  • Hit the Ok button
  • Next time people visit that site, an icon for statement/question pops up next to the text letting them hover and see options they can then choose to navigate to.

Not only does this allow cross-site linking based on both semantic and emotional responses, the data is collected and displayed elsewhere. So there's a Google-like screen. You type in a question. Up pops various answers, gathered from people responding to similar questions all over the web. You read them and respond if you choose, creating a long string of question-statement-question blurbs.


Reading an article on CNN about superconductors but have a question? Highlight the text that prompted the question, sort it, and type in your question. If you choose to navigate away, you're taken to the google-like site where other questions which were tagged with superconductor were asked along with possible answers. It's like a wiki that exists on top of the normal web and is formatted in a conversational manner (instead of topic-link manner normally found in wiki)

So where does this "emotional impact" part come up? Well, that's where it really gets cool. Because sometimes you feel like joking around, sometimes you feel like pondering serious questions, and sometimes you might want to be inspired. As the system learns your moods and how you respond to material other people have sorted, it can manage your emotional state by ranking linked text based on predictive emotional response. In layman's terms, it's not only going to learn what you like, it's going to learn why you like it.

Socrates famously created the Socratic Method, which tried to instill wisdom through questioning. We've done a great job of providing systems, like Google, which can pour through material to find individual answers, but we've done a horrible job of taking the rich content on the web and turning it into a huge cross-topic conversation amongst all consumers. In other words, if I'm reading something and have a question, I can usually find an answer. But if the text of the answer is not interactive, I've got to stop what I'm doing, go back to the search engine, and start searching again. There's no string of how all these pages work together towards a larger whole. It's just search-response, which was cool for a while but seems rather limited.

Can I code this? You betcha. Might even be fun. It'd definitely involve a lot of stuff: Javascript, creating add-ons for Firefox, Safari, and IE, creating an uber cool data system on the back-end.

Should I code this? That's a much more interesting question. It involves what kind of team I have, how long we can run before needing money, and what all of our individual goals are.

Right now I'm just happy with blue-skying the concept. See what other people think. Maybe run it by my closest 10,000 friends on HackerNews. Who knows? Might turn into something useful.

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I really like it... I can definitely see myself using this. The 'wiki over the entire internet' concept is very interesting.

I just want to come by and point out "shiftspace", which is comparable to your idea and allows you to modify any website the way you like it. What's still missing is some "tagging" (and routing) scheme for emotions, I think. You can also use "mozilla jetpack", which makes it relatively easy to create statusbar-applications for firefox.

All of the technologies work with javascript, I think.

We already have this. It's called the Reddit comments page bookmarklet.

Read the article. Selecting pieces of text from a page? Cross-linking from pieces of one page to pieces in another? Predictive emotional response based on content? Creating a web of conversation across the entire web?

If the reddit bookmarklet does that, it's evolved a lot since I last saw it.

If "Google Wave" ever catches on, I think it'll handle a lot of this.

P.S., what happened to your face?! :-)

I like the phrase "wiki over the entire internet," but I think that over-limits the author's idea. A "conversation layer" might be another way to view this. By joining a conversation group, one could surf through pages via the threads of a conversation. Alternately, a random page (say, http://americancityandcounty.com/topics/green/local-regional-solar-planning-20090629/) could be overlaid with comments tagged with a conversation group handle, e.g. "Solar Policy Professionals."

This would allow groups to build many co-existing layers of wikis over the entire internet.

I'm shure i've seen that idea implemented already.
The problem is that you'll need a critical mass of users installing that plugin.
And it will attract a lot of clutter, like that youtube in-video-commenting.

"what happened to your face?!"

I got it caught in a mechanical rice-picker -- http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Mechanical_rice_picker

Ken: it's the only face I have. Be kind. :)

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