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China: The Mob Rules

I've just spent about 50 hours learning about the history of China, and I thought I would share with you some of my conclusions. Since China is headed towards becoming a world superpower, we all should understand a little more about the history of what's happened over there.
I tried to get it all in one phrase, but that's not so easy! So I'll do a few for you. These are all just my impressions. I hope to learn more abut this great country and people over the next few years.
China: The Mob Rules - One of the things I noticed the most about the history of China is how many things happen because of a "mob rules" type of social interaction. The Mongols, for instance, had a long cultural tradition of not letting any one person get too far ahead of the others. (The exception of course was the Kahns) When one leader got too far out ahead of the others, the others would drag him back into place. Everybody had to be part of the herd. Nobody should be too special than anybody else.
I believe this is one of the reasons why China to this day does not support the individual in the same way western societies do. It's all about the collective, the group. How do you fit in? What are the rules of social interaction? Indeed, a key component of Confucianism is how people relate to one another. This emphasis on social structure and herd mentality has held China back and made it take a different path than other cultures in the world.
Mao especially embodies this tradition. While he was a great leader, he was the leader of a mob of peasants. His power consisted of creating mobs with purpose. A recent example of this"mob rules" pattern was demonstrated during the spy plane incident in 2001. Large mobs of Chinese demonstrated against the "warmonger" American president GW Bush. This mob cohesion and cult-like phenomenon extends even to Chinese who live elsewhere. Chinese in San Francisco came out very much in favor of China in the spy plane incident, for instance, even though I believe the facts supported the US position better. At the end of the Hainan Island incident with the spy plane, the US said it was "very sorry" (presumably for flying in international airspace? For getting hit by a young hot shot?) and the Chinese let the plane and it's crew leave. The government got a bow from the mighty US, and the mob got to rally in the street. This incident had nothing to do with the United States -- this was about the Chinese political system mobilizing its people and mob opinion. As the strain on China grows from rapid growth, expect to see more of this mob-baiting. Americans will probably be a favorite target. In a large sense, the Chinese government has to take opposing positions to the US in world matters for purely internal political reasons. I'm not so sure this is a stable system of governance, but it might work for another 50 years, so it matters little to people alive today one way or another, right?
As a side note, we see even this year the Chinese using mobs of thugs to run people from their land so they can build on it. Small villages are seeing an explosion of rioting against central leadership, and police are quelling thousands of local riots. Lethal force is used without much penalty against unruly Chinese citizens. This is not a good sign, but it is the way of China.
China: The Country Nobody Wanted - Again and again China has been defeated by outside powers who then had little desire to lead or take over. Even the Mongols, who ruled China with an iron fist, just assimilated into the culture. Some of the Mongols preferred going back to their nomadic existence. The Chinese like to look at this as assimilation -- groups of outsiders melting into the Chinese culture. But looking over a long view of history, to me it looks like nobody really wanted to rule the Chinese, including the Chinese who were their leaders! This may have been due to the concept of the shi tradition -- a large bureaucratic class of people who administer the state. It's one thing to conquer the Chinese. It's quite another to run the state. The bureaucratic class will just eat up a new Napoleon arriving on the scene.
When the western powers kept defeating the Chinese in the 19th century they didn't want to take over the country; they wanted to sell stuff. (Ironically, they wanted to sell drugs). You can find pictures on the web of the western military surrounding the imperial palace. We put down the boxer rebellion and effectively took over the country. But we didn't want it. It wasn't worth conquering. We just want to buy and sell trinkets. It's strange that the west has spent so much energy in trying to sell things into China! We're still doing it today.
China: Asleep at the Switch - Again and again, the people ruling China seem to be asleep at the switch. It's so easy in a country that doesn't regularly change leaders for the leading class to pull back and disengage. China is an oligarchy, and it has been for a very long time. Why the Chinese people put up with this is a very complicated matter. The pattern is very clear, however. The ruling class just wants all the money and power and wants the peasants to stay in their place. This was easy to get away with in the year 1500. But now with the internet telling the world what happens everywhere? I just can't see it continuing. The poor people in the countryside can see what they are missing. The poor in the cities can see what the rich and powerful is like. Even worse, they can see what the poor are treated like in other countries. China never changes ruling parties -- it's always going to be the communist system. Their way of life is being "asleep at the switch". It's all they know.
China: Numerous and Unimaginative - I always heard that the Chinese invented all kinds of neat stuff: writing, explosives, civilization. But I think there is a great disservice in those statements. Yes, the Chinese invented a bunch of things, but they never applied them. If you invent gunpowder but never use it as a weapon is it really invented? I guess so, but it seems to stretch the point. The whole usefulness of invention is the purpose of inventing, not simply putting the pieces together. China has many, many people and has had a fairly stable history. Western civilization was not like this. We were violent and chaotic. So the Chinese, simply by virtue of their huge number of people and stability, thought up a bunch of stuff. But it was just stuff. The Europeans, on the other hand, not only invented things, they maximized their potential. Part of the reason this happens so much may be Chinese culture.
The Chinese also seem to be nature's first process experts. They were always trying to measure human output and plan from a central point. It never worked, of course, central planning is an idiotic idea. But the Chinese keep on trying. If they can just make the system complicated enough and measure the right performance variables they believe the state will function better. Good luck to them.
The Chinese, by having the traditional bureaucratic class, has a long history of having the "smart" people run the matters of the state. Indeed, for a long time the examination system gave smart people access to this ruling class. Simply being a member put a citizen in a higher level of society. The Chinese are all about groups of smart people ruling the rest. They're always trying to find the right people, and always trying to measure and rule the unwashed masses. Even when there were kings and emperors, the ruling class kept the books. They have a stable ruling caste of powerful, smart people that has been in place for thousands of years. This is a strange concept to outsiders. We're always mixing things up. We view running the government as everybody's business, not just a privileged few.
I've done a lot of posts that mention China. I think it is very important place, people, and culture, and I respect them enormously. I understand that it is very popular in China to view the west, and the United Sates in particular, as hegemons and imperialist powers. But we all know those days are long gone. Such thinking only serves to keep the mob energized -- which is the whole point. Sometime, however, the gig will be up. Mobs are very hard to centrally plan. The Chinese people will figure it all out. We've just always wanted to trade, and the Chinese leaders have always been aloof, corrupt, and unable to handle the future. That's just the way it has been.
In a lot of ways China is more capitalistic today than the rest of the world. I don't mean this post as a critique -- I just wanted to write down what I think I know today about China. I certainly wish them the best.They are proud and capable people. I am not as optimistic about China as I am about India, however. China is going to have to come up with a system where they can make mistakes and learn quickly. You can call that democracy, or you can call it roast beef. In the west every few years we change up ruling parties, ruling people, AND ruling ideas. The society is built from the ground-up by personal property rights. It's not like that in China. And this is a big problem. Good talk doesn't cook rice, and good communists aren't going to help China to be as much as it can be. I hope they can learn that peacefully over time.
lol retarded.. if u can describe China by learning with 50 hours, you could become one of the smartest people in the world.. the comment is subjective, we ll I don't expect somethign good written on the blog.
I wish my paper is not as bad as your blog.
Hey wim.
The purpose of the article was not to be some kind of total review of China. It was to recap what I learned in 50 hours so that I could remember it better. I'm not saying it's right, it's perfect, or even that it is true. It is my impression. I really liked the tape series and others are welcome to get what information they can from it.
Good luck with your paper, whatever your paper is. You might want to leave out words like "retarded" and "u" for "you" -- it makes you look like a 12-year-old moron.
China: The Mob Rules -- well first off mob rule is what Greeks in Socrates time called democracy. Perhaps you have heard of him. Anyways I've been living in China 5 years as a foreigner and most of your points are false or half-true fallacies.
China: The Country Nobody Wanted-- except every country that invaded it, including the English and Japanese.
China: Asleep at the Switch - except it's the worlds fastest growing economic power.
China: Numerous and Unimaginative - except the fact is China is more or less an ancient civilization that grew up separate from European and Middle Eastern influence, that in it's own right solved all the problems of society in it's own way.
China's greatest weakness is also it's greatest strength, it wasn't busy killing other countries in the name of some monotheistic tradition, instead it idled away in seclusion because of geography dealing with trying to maintain such a large mass of land, far greater than any European or Middle Eastern country.
Daniel,
As it said in the article, this was my first impressions after reading the material several years ago. Since then I've worked with several companies doing split work involving China, I've spoken with several national Chinese, and I've spoken to a couple childhood friends that ended up working in China (and are Sinophiles)
I've thought several times of coming back to this article, but since it was about first impressions, I did not. Also I didn't have many major changes to make.
Thanks for attempting to point out its weaknesses though. I wish the Chinese best, and I understand they have many supporters. I also understand they have a system of government that might not make it another 50 years, a system that's running out of resources, and a strong nationalistic tradition. I will continue to try to learn more about China -- there are good people there and lots of history and a rich culture.
People who love China really are crazy about it. I am not one of those people.
Thanks for the comment.
Confucianism does involve relations between people, social hierarchy, and leading by example. I fail to see how this fits in with "the mob rules". Confucius lived during a time of chaos and civil strife and would be against any agitation of the people, even in the spy plane incident. This doesn't produce a harmonious or just society. It just produces a mess. In addition, Mao despised Confucianism as part of the traditional and religious system that was holding China back.
Your other point about the literati running the masses is only half correct. Traditional Confucian thought is also focused on the cultivation of education and knowledge. Of course, knowledge in Confucius time and the dynasties was different than what knowledge is now. But the point Confucius made was that ANYONE could rise to the class of literati. With this in my mind, it's not so outlandish to see why Western Enlightenment thinkers like Voltaire drew on Confucius.
Yes, the current regime is building Confucius institutes across the world, but they only use the name Confucius as a marketing or PR tool. Confucianism is more than obedience and goes beyond Chinese culture. Japan, Korea, and other countries also have elements of Confucianism and have even managed decent democracies out of them.
I won't address the rest as it goes beyond what time I have, but will simply say I am no fan of the current regime. I do concur with your conclusion about the Chinese government needing a better mechanism for self-correction.
Daniel, great post!
I am a foreigner living in China for about 3 years now and I would like to say 'great job'! i think that you have done one of the best jobs of succinctly describing China that I have seen on the web.I admire the post and will link to it, you deserve praise for this work.
Here are my comments, (oh and as an fyi, I live here, work full-time, business development, am pursuing a PhD at a good Chinese university,etc).
1-China: The Mob Rules --This is spot on, read about the cases of Chen Yulian and what is currently happening in Nanjing. You have nailed this and anyone who has an open mind has to see the truth in it.I have actually referenced something similar in my doctoral thesis (especially the notion of Confucianism and its impact). you nailed this one.
China: The Country Nobody Wanted-- Good point, it may be due to the fact that it is like the former USSR, a bunch of different races forced together, but I think you nailed this one as well.Its as if administering law in China is too unwieldy, even they cant do it, so the next best thing is to use their riches.
China: Asleep at the Switch - Why is it that 80
5 of all Chinese billionaires and 90% of all Chinese millionaires are the kids of Communist party members? Corruption, although you were referencing an oligarchy, it is very similar to what I am speaking of here.
Your point is of the educated having positions of power, but I think Mao killed off this idea in the 50's. Basically, from what I have been told and read, he took the uneducated and then they rose through the ranks, this has implications for China's leaders today.
China: Numerous and Unimaginative - Spot on! Even my Chinese colleagues cannot dispute it, I have asked. Add to this that they have not invented anything over the past 500 years and it becomes more obvious.
I love China but have noticed this bizarre phenomenon of foreigners here who are overly zealous in their protection of the image of China, but I think you have done a pretty good job of looking at it from all angles. Great post!